Ancients.info - The Online Resource for Ancient Coins & Antiquities  

Home Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Sidebar Off

  Home · Search · Register  

Home » Member » hieron » Roman Republican Silver « Previous image · Slide Show · Next image »
M_FuriusPhilusDen.jpg
<
AnonymousBrockageDenarius.jpg
·
MnAemiliusLepidusDenarius.jpg
>
TiQuinctiusDenarius.jpg
>>
· more »

AnonymousBrockageDenarius
AnonymousBrockageDenarius
View Smaller Image

Photo Details
hieron


Registered User

Registered: May 2007
Posts: 881
users gallery
AR Anonymous Brockage 115/114 B.C. (3.84g)
O: Hd of Roma r. in winged Corinthian helmet; in ex., ROMA; Cr.287/1; Syd.530
R: Incuse of obverse
G: EF
S: Harlan J. Berk, Ltd. 95th B/B (lot 210) 2/14/97
· Date: May 24, 2007 · Views: 841 ·
Additional Info
Inventory Sheet


Author
Thread  
4to2centophilia

Registered User

Registered: February 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,000
December 5, 2007 6:48pm

Any chance this is a true incuse coin and not brockage?

That incuse side does not fully match the obverse.

------------------------------
.
.
"When you are in Rome live in the Roman style; when you are elsewhere live as they live elsewhere" St. Ambrose (340-397) to St. Augustine."
This user is online
Click here to see this users profile Click here to Send this user a Private Message Find more posts by this user Visit this user's gallery  
Roma_Orbis

Registered User

Registered: December 2005
Location: Paris
Posts: 634
December 6, 2007 6:13am

This kind of item is an error at the mint: a brockage, where the worker forgot to remove the previously struck coin while striking the new flan: it took the negative impression of the previous coin obverse. The incuse side fully matches the obv., apart from some details that didn't come out. I have never heard such coins were struck intentionally; it is a failure in the quality control at the mint!

Jérôme
This user is offline
Click here to see this users profile Click here to Send this user a Private Message Visit Roma_Orbis's homepage! Find more posts by this user Visit this user's gallery  
hieron
Registered User

Registered: May 2007
Posts: 881
December 6, 2007 8:39am

Sharp eye, Mark. The most obvious difference is the ROMA lettering below the truncation of the neck, but I had assumed that was a centering issue. It looks like the top or the R is below the horsehair tail of the crest, but it does make one wonder. -c
This user is offline
Click here to see this users profile Click here to Send this user a Private Message Find more posts by this user Visit this user's gallery  
4to2centophilia

Registered User

Registered: February 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,000
December 6, 2007 9:42am

Jerome

I understand what brockage implies, however I still find some inconsistencies.

Clay has pointed out the difference in the Roma, but I will concede that this may be just a poorly transfer of the strike.

However, two things that raise questions.

The first is the X symbol. Although the obverse and reverse sides are identical in size, the reverse is markedly farther away from the plumage.

The second is the plumage itself, especially at the crest. Unless this is a trick of lighting, it appears that the obverse has incised lines that create the feathering.

To me it appears that the same lines on the reverse are also incised (cut in) and not raised as I would expect.

Clay...................is this the case?

------------------------------
.
.
"When you are in Rome live in the Roman style; when you are elsewhere live as they live elsewhere" St. Ambrose (340-397) to St. Augustine."
This user is online
Click here to see this users profile Click here to Send this user a Private Message Find more posts by this user Visit this user's gallery  
hieron
Registered User

Registered: May 2007
Posts: 881
December 6, 2007 11:27am

You make some good points, Mark. I'll have to get the coin out of the Safety Deposit Box, grab some calipers and a good magnifying glass, and study the coin more closely. -c
This user is offline
Click here to see this users profile Click here to Send this user a Private Message Find more posts by this user Visit this user's gallery  

Powered by: PhotoPost PHP vB3 Enhanced
Copyright 2005 All Enthusiast, Inc.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content copyright © 2002-2006, VHobbies.com, LLC. All rights reserved.