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cerwin · Sep 23, 2006, 11:14 AM

hi collectors,
i have suggestion to adiministration of this great site.Why dont you make sub-forum about thracian coins and thracian mint.its a big mistake to put thracian coins in greek forum.

forgive me for my bad english

cogito · Sep 23, 2006, 12:21 PM

Thracian coins are grouped into the larger rubric of "Greek," just as the Satrapal coins of Asia Minor or Phoenician coins are classified under "Greek." It is factually accurate to sub-divide these coins and make distinctions between these coins and those of Greece proper, but to do so in separate topic sections would make things very unwieldy from a website discussion standpoint.

BTW - your English is quite good.

Jeff

AlexB · Sep 24, 2006, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cerwin

hi collectors,
i have suggestion to adiministration of this great site.Why dont you make sub-forum about thracian coins and thracian mint.its a big mistake to put thracian coins in greek forum.

forgive me for my bad english

I would also say that I can't think of any ancient Thracian coins that were not from Greek colonies or from Macedonian occupation! More modern I guess there must be.

I know, I know, Macedonians not Greek either....

Brgds

Alex

reidgold · Nov 30, 2006, 09:30 PM

Thracian coins are usually lumped together with Greek coins, but Thracians were not Greeks, and neither was their coinage. Coinage by indiginous Thracians in the interior of Thrace began in the late sixth or early fifth century BC, not long after the ancient Greeks first starting minting coins. These early Thracian coins were minted by tribes such as the Derroni, Orescii, Bisaltae, Ichnae, and Edoni. Later, upon the emergence of the Odrysae, the most powerful Thracian tribe, indiginous Thracian coins were dominated by those minted by Odrysaen king, which included over a period of some centuries Sparadokos, Seuthes I, Teres III, Kotys I, Seuthes III, and Kotys II.

It is true that much so-called Thracian coinage came from Greek colonies in Thrace along the Black Sea and northern Aegean Sea, including Abdera, Maroneia, Ainos, Lysimacheia, Cherronesos, Byzantion, Apollonia Pontika, Mesembria, Odessos, Kallatis, Tomis, Istros, and Thasos. Interestingly, there's some overlap between these Greek city coins and the Thracian tribal coins, with some of the Greek issues imitated by nearby Thracian tribes.

cerwin · Dec 9, 2006, 04:32 AM

I wanna tell you a interesting news.
Two weeks ago were fould a coins of Sitalk.Until then the arheologist thinking that Sitalk didnt mint coins.the coins is valued about 60 000euro.

cogito · Dec 9, 2006, 08:52 AM

Any pictures of these coins? Bronze? Silver? Gold?

Jeff

cerwin · Dec 9, 2006, 09:44 AM

sorry,thats all i have.

bbridgwater · Dec 9, 2006, 10:23 AM

Those didn't work for me when I clicked on them, so I've uploaded them.

Ben

cogito · Dec 9, 2006, 10:23 AM

Very nice! Looks like maybe a drachm or didrachm given the size. I wonder what the other side looks like?

Jeff

cerwin · Dec 9, 2006, 11:04 AM

i found it

i wonder what will be the price if someone find more coins..

cogito · Dec 9, 2006, 11:50 AM

That side is even more stunning than the other.

Looks like it needs a good professional cleaning. If it's the only example and given the artistry, I suspect 30-40K Euro is a fair guess on its value.

Jeff

Sep 23, 2006, 11:14 AM	#1
cerwin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pleven Posts: 15	thracian coins hi collectors, i have suggestion to adiministration of this great site.Why dont you make sub-forum about thracian coins and thracian mint.its a big mistake to put thracian coins in greek forum. forgive me for my bad english

Nov 30, 2006, 09:30 PM	#4
reidgold Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 161	Thracian coins are usually lumped together with Greek coins, but Thracians were not Greeks, and neither was their coinage. Coinage by indiginous Thracians in the interior of Thrace began in the late sixth or early fifth century BC, not long after the ancient Greeks first starting minting coins. These early Thracian coins were minted by tribes such as the Derroni, Orescii, Bisaltae, Ichnae, and Edoni. Later, upon the emergence of the Odrysae, the most powerful Thracian tribe, indiginous Thracian coins were dominated by those minted by Odrysaen king, which included over a period of some centuries Sparadokos, Seuthes I, Teres III, Kotys I, Seuthes III, and Kotys II. It is true that much so-called Thracian coinage came from Greek colonies in Thrace along the Black Sea and northern Aegean Sea, including Abdera, Maroneia, Ainos, Lysimacheia, Cherronesos, Byzantion, Apollonia Pontika, Mesembria, Odessos, Kallatis, Tomis, Istros, and Thasos. Interestingly, there's some overlap between these Greek city coins and the Thracian tribal coins, with some of the Greek issues imitated by nearby Thracian tribes. __________________ Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos

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Sep 23, 2006, 12:21 PM	#2
cogito Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Piedmont of North Carolina Posts: 1,721	Thracian coins are grouped into the larger rubric of "Greek," just as the Satrapal coins of Asia Minor or Phoenician coins are classified under "Greek." It is factually accurate to sub-divide these coins and make distinctions between these coins and those of Greece proper, but to do so in separate topic sections would make things very unwieldy from a website discussion standpoint. BTW - your English is quite good. Jeff

Dec 9, 2006, 04:32 AM	#5
cerwin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pleven Posts: 15	I wanna tell you a interesting news. Two weeks ago were fould a coins of Sitalk.Until then the arheologist thinking that Sitalk didnt mint coins.the coins is valued about 60 000euro.

Dec 9, 2006, 08:52 AM	#6
cogito Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Piedmont of North Carolina Posts: 1,721	Any pictures of these coins? Bronze? Silver? Gold? Jeff

Dec 9, 2006, 09:44 AM	#7
cerwin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pleven Posts: 15	sorry,thats all i have.

Dec 9, 2006, 10:23 AM	#9
cogito Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Piedmont of North Carolina Posts: 1,721	Very nice! Looks like maybe a drachm or didrachm given the size. I wonder what the other side looks like? Jeff

Dec 9, 2006, 11:04 AM	#10
cerwin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pleven Posts: 15	i found it i wonder what will be the price if someone find more coins..

Dec 9, 2006, 11:50 AM	#11
cogito Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Piedmont of North Carolina Posts: 1,721	That side is even more stunning than the other. Looks like it needs a good professional cleaning. If it's the only example and given the artistry, I suspect 30-40K Euro is a fair guess on its value. Jeff