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leetoone · Jan 21, 2008, 12:51 PM

I've posted this elsewhere, but I am really keen to get information about other examples with these pellets fropm London.

Ostensibly, RIC 225 and a pretty little consular bust r1.

However, close inspection reveals a pellet between BEATA and TRAQUILLITAS. Not recorded in RIC as far as I can see.

Anyone else come across this one?

Best wishes

Lee

bhupchurch · Jan 22, 2008, 04:30 AM

Hi Lee,
I have one of these BEATA<dot>TRANQVILITAS coins from London (also RIC 225) and 2 from Trier (RIC 305). Attached is a photo of one I bought from CNG.
RIC has a photo of Trier 305 on Plate IV showing the dot in the legend, but there is no mention of the dot in the text - not even a footnote.
Die römische Münzserie Beata Tranquillitas in der Prägestätte Trier 321-323, by Dieter Alten and Carl-Friedrich Zschucke, shows one example of Trier RIC 306 with a dot in the legend (p. 31, #17) and one example of RIC 305 (p. 31, #5 in Alten's book), but there is no mention of the dot in the text. With your coin, I am now aware of 7 specimens from 2 mints with this legend variant. All are from c. 321 AD and show consular busts of Constantine. I have not seen this variant for Licinius or the sons.
Regards,
Brent Upchurch

leetoone · Jan 22, 2008, 01:07 PM

Good to hear from you Brent!

I seem to have another example with the pellet/dot - this time RIC 236 Constantine II. I'll try and post a photo at the weekend.

Can you post a photo of your RIC 225 - is it a die match to mine by any chance?

Stay in touch ...

Lee

PS Did you see this coin I just acquired and posted in another place?

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/boa...?topic=43060.0

leetoone · Jan 26, 2008, 07:27 AM

Here is the RIC 236 with two pellets!

bhupchurch · Jan 26, 2008, 08:48 AM

Lee,
Here's a photo of my London coin.

beata-dot-london.jpg

leetoone · Jan 26, 2008, 11:10 AM

Thanks Brent.

There's obviously something going on here with these pellets. Yours and mine are not die matches yet the pellet is clearly deliberate. Incidentally your obverse legend break is interesting. Not in RIC and very late in the legend.

Looking forward to any other responses.

Lee

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Jan 22, 2008, 01:07 PM	#3
leetoone Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 175	Good to hear from you Brent! I seem to have another example with the pellet/dot - this time RIC 236 Constantine II. I'll try and post a photo at the weekend. Can you post a photo of your RIC 225 - is it a die match to mine by any chance? Stay in touch ... Lee PS Did you see this coin I just acquired and posted in another place? http://www.forumancientcoins.com/boa...?topic=43060.0

Jan 26, 2008, 08:48 AM	#5
bhupchurch Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 79	London BEATA<dot>TRANQVILLITAS Lee, Here's a photo of my London coin. beata-dot-london.jpg

Jan 26, 2008, 11:10 AM	#6
leetoone Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 175	Thanks Brent. There's obviously something going on here with these pellets. Yours and mine are not die matches yet the pellet is clearly deliberate. Incidentally your obverse legend break is interesting. Not in RIC and very late in the legend. Looking forward to any other responses. Lee