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Old Mar 25, 2010, 08:44 AM   #1
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The Coolest Coin! Really

I couldn't believe when I saw this one and it is indeed a eye opener.
Even though it is "barbarous" in style a really unique mule of a much sought after Chi Rho type of Constantius II from Trier.
I expected it to fetch much higher!

http://www.cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI...=STRK:MEDWX:IT

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Old Mar 25, 2010, 09:15 AM   #2
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Your link does not work. Could you post a picture instead?
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Old Mar 25, 2010, 09:31 AM   #3
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Does this one work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=180481380099
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Old Mar 25, 2010, 02:02 PM   #4
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Indeed it does, thanks Andreas.

A lovely piece to be sure, and very interesting.
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Old Mar 26, 2010, 05:38 AM   #5
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A contemporary imitation combining an obverse of Constantius II with a reverse of Magnentius and Decentius: rather neat and attractive, but unofficial and without historical significance, in my opinion.
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Old Mar 26, 2010, 09:24 AM   #6
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Thanks for the correction!

Sorry my link didn't work and glad you were able to pull the page up.
This is an oddity and no doubt a curious issue because his so-called regular "double centenionalis" was struck without silver content; out of desperate measures by Magnentius because of his lack of silver bullion at the end of his reign.
Why an unoffical minter would choose this type is a puzzle and I've NEVER seen this type as a barbarous specie. My first in the decades I've been collecting.
A really OUTSTANDING example for someone collecting these.
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Old Mar 26, 2010, 07:05 PM   #7
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Is that not the same coin type as this one ??

http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=163158

cataloged by the seller as RIC VIII 332? I don't have that volume so I can't verify the attribution.
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Old Mar 26, 2010, 07:10 PM   #8
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OK, never mind my previous post -- glossed over the reverse legend too quickly. Too much time staring at coins on my computer screen tonight, I must be getting punchy...
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 03:09 AM   #9
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Yes, indeed, I should have specified in an "imiative" or "barbarous" style.
Why would an unofficial workshop strike an issue that was valued less that previous issues? The nummis rapidly lost weight at this time by Constantius, so that may be the key to that question. The next large barbarous copies probably were the "Bulls" of Julian II.
Oh, by the way, the coin you shared, Robert (thank you, it is a fine coin), is not as RARE as thought...seen many examples of Constantius II offerred from the Trier mint.
Of course, this is a "mule", but still we can date it @353AD because it was a short lived type.
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 04:55 AM   #10
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FYI: There are "many examples of Constantius II offered
from the Trier mint
" mainly because that it the ONLY mint
that produced them!
They relate to the Poemenius revolt of 353 at that city.
Interesting coins, even the barbarous mule.
There is an interesting article in CHRB XII (Moneta 97)
about the Welbourn Hoard that had a good number of
these, I believe the most ever found in the one place.
Plus there are a few other related articles about, if you
want to take the time to search for them.

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Old Mar 27, 2010, 05:10 AM   #11
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OK, ROMA the Vcoin seller has five of these listed and has sold several in the past months.
I also seen many on ebay over the years... not a RARE issue from Trier.
Thanks and ROMA has an interesting byread in his listing...
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 11:39 AM   #12
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I have dug up three of these 'constantius II' coins so thy cant be that rare lol
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