<![CDATA[Ancients.info - The Online Resource for Ancient Coins & Antiquities]]> http://www.ancients.info/forums en Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:35:12 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.ancients.info/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg <![CDATA[Ancients.info - The Online Resource for Ancient Coins & Antiquities]]> http://www.ancients.info/forums Moneta Britannia 2011 http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3020&goto=newpost Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:08:42 GMT Planning for Moneta Britannia 2011 is now underway and a temporary website has been set up at http://monetabritannia2011.blogspot.com/ The... Planning for Moneta Britannia 2011 is now underway and a temporary website has been set up at

http://monetabritannia2011.blogspot.com/

The conference will be held in York (UK) on 14th July 2011 and will focus on Roman coinage related to Britain. Essentially, that means coins that refer to Britannia, coins officially minted in Britain and coins unofficially minted in Britain. There will also be some input on how Roman coinage influenced early Anglo-Saxon coinage.

The conference is part of a weeklong “festival of numismatics” – the York Coin Fair is being held that week and the 2011 Leeds International Medieval Congress takes place from July 11-14 and, with its theme of Poor . . . Rich, includes a medieval coinage symposium covering the period from 973 to c.1500. This will be held on Wednesday 13th July.

We are also looking at the possibility of organising other events. Further information will be published on the websites so do sign up for automated online updates.

Any comments or suggestions will be gratefully received.

Best wishes

Lee Toone

P.S. It has been pointed out that “MONETA BRITANNIA” may be grammatically incorrect. Mea culpa! My excuse is that the engraver didn’t have enough room on the die .......... ]]> Roman leetoone http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3020 Svoronos books http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3019&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:05:24 GMT Hello all,

I am wondering if any of Svoronos' works (other than Ta Nomismata tou Kratous ton Ptolemaion) are available online.

I am looking specifically for:

Les monnaies d’Athenes. Munich. 1923-26.
Numismatique de la Crète ancienne. Paris. 1890.
"Coinage of Delphi" in Bulletin de Correspondance Hellénique XX (1896).

Thanks in advance,

Tom Mullally ]]> Publications chefzilla http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3019 Towns and Times of Philosophers http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3018&goto=newpost Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:00:55 GMT When I actively collected, I was inspired by the Carl Sagan Cosmos episode "Backbone of the Night" to acquire coins from the lifetimes of philosophers. I had about 50 names linked to coins, from Thales of Miletus to Hypatia of Alexandria.

Among them was this:
Syrakusa 474-450 BCE.
AR Litra.
obv: Artemis Arethusa / rev: Cuttlefish
Alfoeldi 136 "Obol"; Beohringer 467 or 451;
0.65 grams
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]]> Coin of the Day mmarotta http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3018 <![CDATA[Astronomy via Ancient & Medieval Coins]]> http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3017&goto=newpost Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:50:18 GMT Astronomical Symbols on Ancient and Medieval Coins by Marshall Faintich; McFarland & Co., 2008, 232 pages, $55.00.

This fascinating and important book deserves more attention. This book was released ahead of the International Year of Astronomy 2009, sponsored by the International Astronomical Union and UNESCO on the 400th anniversary of Galileo’s use of the telescope to examine the stars. Yet, it received few reviews in either astronomical or numismatic publications.

I have a review coming out in the CSNS Centinel. I read about this on the E-Sylum maillist in several announcements.
The publisher's announcement was reprinted first (May 16, 2010)
http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v13n20a04.html

Then editor Wayne Homren offered a review (June 27)
http://www.coinbooks.org/club_nbs_es....html#article6

Then, July 18, astronomer and numismatist Kavan Ratnatunga offered a review
http://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v13n29a05.html

I acquired the book and found that enthusiasm aside, none of those actually provided a technical review, either on numismatic or astronomical grounds. In 1978, I did a directed study in astronomy at New Mexico State University at their Clyde Tombaugh Observatory and in 1980, I completed a direted study in celestial mechanics at Lansing Community College. I have several standard books on mathematical astronomy and once upon a time wrote programs from the maths. But that was a long time ago, and I am not a professional astronomer. However, completing a master's degree this past winter, I took some cognate electives in geoscience and physics and I have enlisted help from a graduate and undergraduate colleagues to review the astronomy in Faintich's book. Those reviews wil follow soon, the first for the MSNS Mich-Matist and the ANA Numismatist.

There is no doubt that anicent and medieval coins have stars, moons, suns, orbs, annulets and other symbols on them. The question is: what do they mean? To validate any claims, it must be known what was in the sky near the time that the coin was struck. The problem is that the Earth wobbles. When a county or a kingdom is merely 20 or 100 miles on a side, little differences make a big difference. That is actually two problems, the first of which is when the coin was struck.

More on this later as we develop our essays.

Here on Ancients.Info are these related topics.

The Globe on Roman Imperial Coins
http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=1811
AReich replied
This has been discussed here:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/boa...?topic=40755.0
and here:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/boa...p?topic=5673.0

Symbolism of the Sphere by Michael R. Molnar, The Celator, Vol. 13, No. 6, June 1998.
Dr. Tom Buggey's pages include this set of presentations on
Astronomical Themes on Ancient Coins
http://tjbuggey.ancients.info/astro.html

My own essay now appears on this website.
http://www.1worldglobes.com/ancientcoinsarticle.htm
Globes on Ancient Coins by Michael E. Marotta
(“Ancient coins show they knew it was round,” The Celator. Vol. 12, No. 2, February, 1998, p. 18-20 : ill)

In that original Celator article, I missed an important clue. I failed to identify the celestial equator and tropics, divided into houses. I saw that only as a "ribbon" wrapping the world as a gift to the emperor, thus, my seeking help from academic astronomers. ]]> Advanced Topics mmarotta http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3017 New gallery at the Boston Museum of Fine Arts dedicated to ancient coins http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3016&goto=newpost Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:49:06 GMT I thought that some would find this interesting. I plan on visiting when it opens. A generous gift by Michael C. Ruettgers will enable the MFA to... I thought that some would find this interesting. I plan on visiting when it opens.


A generous gift by Michael C. Ruettgers will enable the MFA to present a gallery devoted to the art of ancient coins - the only such gallery in an art museum in the United States. Richard Grossmann, Consulting Curator for Numismatics, provides an overview of the planning and preparation under way for this state-of-the-art gallery, slated to open in 2012, and discusses some of the benefits (and challenges) associated with exhibiting ancient coins in a museum setting. ]]> Off-topic Conversations paul1888 http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3016 RE: Bulk Ancient Coin Hoards + Antiquities http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3015&goto=newpost Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:04:17 GMT Hi, We have available for export: ANCIENT COINS: 1 - Bronze Judea Capta Coin: http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327 2 - Silver... Hi,

We have available for export:

ANCIENT COINS:

1 - Bronze Judea Capta Coin:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327

2 - Silver Jewish Shekel - near MINT Condition (very fine detail, no cleaning necessary, but small crack one one edge):
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326

3 - Very RARE - one lot of 9 silver Seleukos I Nikator, 312-281 B.C. Special thanks for attribution from one of our connoisseur-collector clients:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320

4 - Hoard of 1017 Premium-Quality Uncleaned Coins (mixed varieties) - Available in BULK on regular basis:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=338

5 - Hoard of 1000 Bronze Uncleaned Roman, 18-20-22 mm
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318

6 - Hoard of 1177 Bronze Uncleaned Roman, 15-20-22-25 mm
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319

7 - Hoard of 1200 Uncleaned Bronze LATE Roman Coins
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=333

8 - Hoard of 1600 Bronze Seleucid Coins:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=322

9 - Hoard of 2000 Seleucid Coins
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328

10 - Hoard of 450 Bronze Byzantine Coins
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=330

11 - Hoard of 3000 Bronze Byzantine Coins
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332

12 - Hoard of 112 Bronze Arab Byzantine Coins
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331

13 - Hoard of 1729 Bronze Islamic Coins
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334

14 - Lot of 50 Silver Roman Denarii:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321

15 - Hoard of 800 Silver Roman Denarii, 17-18 mm
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=310

16 - Hoard of 250 Silver Roman Denarii, 22-23 mm
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=311

17 - Lot of 27 Silver Greek Athenas, 20-24 mm
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315

18 - Hoard of 90 Silver Quarter Alexanders, 15-18 mm
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=312

19 - Hoard of 100 Silver Alexanders, 25-26 mm
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=313

20 - 105 Silver Roman Drachmas (Caracella + others), 25 mm
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314

21 - Widow's Mites (4 lots of 4 qualities) - available in BULK by request

A - Medium/Moderate Quality: http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246
B - Premium Quality: http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=244
C - Medium/Moderate Quality: http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245
D - Low/Avg Quality: http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248

Also available in bulk (not yet photographed specific lots of current inventory):

22 - Mixed Judean Procurators:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250

23 - Masada (First Jewish Revolt) Coins:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=249

24 - Pontius Pilate Coins:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69

25 - Avg/Low-Quality Uncleaned coins (16kg recent shipment pictured for example):
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337

ANTIQUITIES:


26 - 5 Luristan Persian Swords, 3 are made of bronze, 2 are made of Iron:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324

27 - Luristan Persian Bronze Spearheads:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=323

28 - Various Bronze Persian Maceheads (some decorated) + Axehead:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325

29 - 14 Syro-Palestinian Stamp Seals:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335

30 - 35 Canaanite / Egyptian Scarab Seals:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336

We have over 20,000+ items in inventory. The above is a small sample, indicative list only, and by no means an all-inclusive list. Please feel free to inquire about items and item-types. We will confirm what we have available in inventory and revert back asap.

More to be posted in the coming days, GOD-willing.

All of our ancient coins and antiquities are guaranteed genuine for your lifetime and lifetime of your children, and come with Certificates of Authenticity, as well as Export Approval legal documentation from the Israel Antiquities Authority.

In order to be fair to all of our clients, we honor a first-come, first-served policy.

Kindest regards,

GOD bless you,
B. Leon
www.zzantiquities.com
www.zzancientart.com ]]> Commercial Sales zzantiquities http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3015 Carpathus Stater reference please http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3014&goto=newpost Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:04:11 GMT Dear All, I am currently doing some research on this coin from Carpathus. I would like to ask your opinion about this stater. Do these dies exist in... Dear All,

I am currently doing some research on this coin from Carpathus. I would like to ask your opinion about this stater. Do these dies exist in any reference or are known? Weight: 13.82g

Thank you in advance for the help.

George
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]]> Attribution Help Georgios http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3014 <![CDATA[Lax Security In Egypt's museums]]> http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3013&goto=newpost Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:51:01 GMT There's a recent article in the Dever Post and other papers by Hadeel Al-Shalchi about poor security in Egypt's museums; alarm and camera systems that don't work and the recent theft of a Van Gogh painting. It's sad that nations don't want looting and the export of their ancient coins and antiquities, but they don't want to fund more money to protect what they already have. I wish more nations would adopt England's treasure law. This article in my local paper is titled "Security lax in Egypt's museums." If you want to read the article you can do a Google search. Sorry I don't know how to create a link to it! ]]> Archeology livingwater http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3013 Message from CNG regarding possible restrictions on Greek Cultural property http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3012&goto=newpost Sat, 28 Aug 2010 03:16:44 GMT I did not know which forum to place this in, but below is an email I received from CNG. I am sure many of you have already read this, but I thought... I did not know which forum to place this in, but below is an email I received from CNG. I am sure many of you have already read this, but I thought that I would put here anyway. I think Greece is following Italy and trying to find new ways to tax the rest of the world.

Paul

:mad: :( :eek:


From CNG: :We've recently learned that the government of Greece has asked the United States to implement new import restrictions on Greek cultural property. We're asking for your help to oppose any new restrictions on the trade of coins.

Although we don't know exactly which objects are specified in the confidential request, we have reason to believe coins of Greek origin are included. In the past, coins from Greece have not been subject to restrictions of this type. If this new request is granted, the impact on both collectors and dealers could be substantial. We're asking you to help by making your thoughts known to the Cultural Property Advisory Committee (CPAC), which will soon evaluate the Greek request. Please see our instructions below to send CPAC your comments.

Why should you oppose these import restrictions? Industry attorney Peter Tompa has suggested that collectors consider the following points:
US law requires that restrictions only be applied on artifacts "first discovered in Greece." But hoard evidence demonstrates that Greek coins circulated extensively outside the confines of the modern Greek nation state.
US law requires restrictions only be placed on artifacts of "cultural significance." But coins -- which exist in many multiples-- do not meet that particular criteria.
US law requires that less drastic remedies be tried before import restrictions. But Greece has not tried systems akin the the UK Treasure Act before seeking restrictions.
US law requires that restrictions be consistent with the interests of the international community in cultural exchanges. But restrictions will diminish the ability of American collectors to appreciate Greek culture and could greatly limit people to people contacts with other collectors in Europe.
Restrictions are unfair and discriminatory to Americans. Collectors in the EU--including Greece-- have no similar limitations on their ability to import ancient coins.


To find out more about Greece's request, you may visit the Cultural Heritage Center site maintained by the US Department of State. In addition, Peter Tompa maintains a blog in which he discusses his opinions of the Greek request.

Please send your comments to the Cultural Property Advisory Committee through the following US government Web site before September 22:

Submit a comment now by using the link below:
http://www.regulations.gov/search/Re...00006480b3b3c6




Thank you for your help in this matter.

The Staff at CNG, Inc. ]]> Off-topic Conversations paul1888 http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3012 RE: 9 RARE Silver Seleukos I Nikator + pictures added http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3011&goto=newpost Wed, 25 Aug 2010 00:42:14 GMT Hi, We have available for export: Very RARE - one lot of 9 silver Seleukos I Nikator, 312-281 B.C. Special thanks for attribution from one of our... Hi,

We have available for export:

Very RARE - one lot of 9 silver Seleukos I Nikator, 312-281 B.C. Special thanks for attribution from one of our connoisseur-collector clients:
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=320

We have also added complete pictures (front and back sides of each coin) to the following lots:

1 - 170 Bronze Roman City Coins, 20-25-30-35 mm
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=317

2 - 105 Silver Roman Drachmas (Caracella + others), 25 mm
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314

3 - 33 Mixed Greek/Roman Emperors, 20-30-35 mm (e.g. Alexander, Nero, Vespasian, Trajan)
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316

4 - 27 Silver Greek Athenas, 20-24 mm
http://zzancientart.com/forums/showthread.php?t=315

More to be posted in the coming days, GOD-willing.

All of our ancient coins and antiquities are guaranteed genuine for your lifetime and lifetime of your children, and come with Certificates of Authenticity, as well as Export Approval legal documentation from the Israel Antiquities Authority.

In order to be fair to all of our clients, we honor a first-come, first-served policy.

kindest regards,

B. Leon
www.zzantiquities.com
www.zzancientart.com ]]> Commercial Sales zzantiquities http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3011 New Allectus reverse type http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3010&goto=newpost Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:42:43 GMT Hi, Got home just too late to pick this coin up from the Post Office but wanted to post it here anyway. It was one of a group of two coins recently... Hi,

Got home just too late to pick this coin up from the Post Office but wanted to post it here anyway. It was one of a group of two coins recently sold at auction and the vendor looks to have not noted the reverse.


Sol standing on the reverse between two captives and although it would be unusual for and Allectan coin to have two captives it could be over looked. What is different is the legend. You would expect to see ORIENS AVG, however, from the evident lettering it looks to read SOLI INVICTO. As such this would probably be a new reverse type, unrepresented in the BM collection (although I do need to check Oxford and Cambridge collections). It is also unusual in that there are no field marks, only ML in the exergue.

Regards,

Mauseus ]]> Unlisted Coins Mauseus http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3010 <![CDATA[RE: Ancient Coin Hoards - Silver & Bronze]]> http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3009&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:53:12 GMT Hi, We have available various ancient coin hoards available for immediate export. These are limited lots, and are subject to availability. The... Hi,

We have available various ancient coin hoards available for immediate export.

These are limited lots, and are subject to availability.

The larger hoards are available in minimum quantities of 50, 100, 150, etc.

The smaller lots are available in minimum quantities of 10, 20, 30, etc.

Prices depend upon selected quantity; the more you purchase, the lower price-per-coin.

High Definition & High Quality pictures are available upon request individually by e-mail, and will be posted on our website www.zzancientart.com/forums in the coming 24 hours, GOD-willing.

- 800 Silver Roman Denarii, 17-18 mm
- 250 Silver Roman Denarii, 22-23 mm
- 90 Silver Quarter Alexanders, 15-18 mm
- 100 Silver Alexanders, 25-26 mm
- 105 Silver Roman Drachmas (Caracella + others), 25 mm
- 27 Silver Athenas, 20-24 mm
- 1177 Bronze Uncleaned Roman, 15-20-22-25 mm
- 1000 Bronze Uncleaned Roman, 18-20-22 mm
- 170 Bronze Roman City Coins, 20-25-30-35 mm
- 33 Mixed Greek/Roman Emperors, 20-30-35 mm (e.g. Alexander, Nero, Vespasian, Trajan, etc.)

All of our antiquities are guaranteed genuine authentic ancient for your lifetime + lifetime of your children, and come with Certificates of Authenticity, as well as Export Approval legal documentation from the Israel Antiquities Authority.

In order to be fair to all clients, we honor a first-come, first-served policy.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Kindest regards,

GOD bless you,
B. Leon
www.zzancientart.com
www.zzantiquities.com ]]> Commercial Sales zzantiquities http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3009 Treasure claim after Roman coins found near Manchester. http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3008&goto=newpost Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:04:57 GMT I just saw this news from last week (Friday, August 6) that I found very curious.... I just saw this news from last week (Friday, August 6) that I found very curious.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/manchest...00/8893100.stm
"An archaeologist says his latest find of buried treasure is proof of a previously unknown Roman encampment on the outskirts of Manchester.
James Balme has been searching the area around Warburton for over a decade to find evidence of its Roman past.
... using his metal detector, James claims to have made his second discovery of buried treasure: eight Roman silver Republican Denarius coins, dated between 252 BC and 2 BC.
...And although it was impossible to establish an exact date of loss, he suggested that they were probably buried between 70 and 130 AD."

I just wonder: knowing that virtually all the republican silver disappeared during Neronian times and whatever was left out there was gone in the times of Tajan in early 100s what made him give such a late estimation - Vespasian times and later, especially extending it to 130?

picture from www.news.bbc.co.uk
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]]> Archeology Flavus http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3008 Rare 2,200-year-old gold coin found in Israel http://www.ancients.info/forums/showthread.php?t=3007&goto=newpost Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:01:14 GMT I just saw that today on the news. A team of University of Michigan and University of Minnesota archeologists found a 27.7 (!!!) gram gold coin in... I just saw that today on the news. A team of University of Michigan and University of Minnesota archeologists found a 27.7 (!!!) gram gold coin in Israel. Amazing.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/...ex.html?hpt=C2

The obverse, or 'head' of the coin, portrays Queen Arsinoe II Philadelphus.
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