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Ned Bowman
Feb 28, 2008, 05:15 PM
I am researching the Fleur-de-lis on Ancient Roman, possibly Gaul coins. I have learned it did appear, however, I have not found an image of one on a coin. Am I looking in the right category?

vic9128
Feb 28, 2008, 09:02 PM
The coin below is from Wildwinds

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/sg/sg1157.jpg



SICILY, Panormos as "Ziz". Circa 380-340 BC. Litra (11.77 gm). Head
of Hera left wearing single-pendant earring and stephane decorated
with three fleur-de-lis / Punic 'sys' in exergue, man-headed bull
standing left; radiate head of Helios above. Jenkins, "Coins of Punic
Sicily," in SNR 50 (1971), pl. 24, 21; SNG ANS 554; Calciati I pg.
270, 5; BMC Sicily pg. 250, 38; SNG Copenhagen 518; SNG Morcom -;
Laffaille 192; Virzi 1302-306.

vic9128
Feb 28, 2008, 09:25 PM
There is a coin being sold by Forum described as



Celts, Gaul, Leuci, c. 70 - 52 B.C.

Cast potin, De La Tour 9078, aVF, 2.981g, 16.3mm, 135o, c. 70 - 52 B.C.; obverse stylized head left; reverse boar left, fleur de lis ornament below
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http://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins/26584q00.jpg

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vic9128
Feb 29, 2008, 09:27 AM
Here is an example from David Connors listed on V-coins

Elagabalus AE25 Edessa, Mesopotamia Tyche seated on rocks.
Obverse features neat fighting bust with fleur-de-lis on shield.

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/davidconnors/store/viewItem.asp?idProduct=8976&large=0

vic9128
Feb 29, 2008, 09:36 AM
Below is another Gaulish coin, like the Forum example, but it has a much clearer reverse. It is listed on Ancient Imports at the Vcoins mall

Leuci Tribe Potin / Boar

Attribution: De La Tour 9078
Date: 100-50 BC
Obverse: Wildman l.
Reverse: Boar l., fleur de lis below
Size: 16 mm
Weight: 3.7 grams

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/ancientimports/store/viewitem.asp?idProduct=2750

BeastCoins
Feb 29, 2008, 10:18 AM
Here is Byzantine example:

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/beastcoins/store/catalog/Z5173.jpg

Anonymous Issue (attributed to John Comnenus Ducas), Billon Small Module Trachy, c.1242-1246, Empire of Thessalonica
(No legend)
Fleur-de-lis
(No legend)
Patriarchal cross, pellet after each end, open circle in lower left field
13mm x 16mm, 0.57g
SB --; DOC IV --; Penchev 978-985, p.52

Note: Missing from both Sear Byzantine and Dumbarton Oaks. Also, no examples in the LHS 97 sale of the Protonotarios Collection of Late Byzantine coins. Michael Braunlin provided the Penchev reference from "A hoard of copper (billon) scyphati from the first half of the 13th century found near Petrich", published by Agato in Sofia in 2003.

--Zach Beasley