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Lycaonian
Jan 3, 2008, 12:46 PM
Hello everyone!

I have been collecting for the last 4 years, so I am at least a beginner aspiring to be an intermediate level collector. My first post was a want list when it should simply have been an introduction, so here I am introducing myself to you and eager to learn and get to know and talk to many of you. I have thoroughly enjoyed the posts I have read so far and, as others have commented, I have been put at ease by the whole atmosphere of this forum. In fact, I nearly burst out laughing reading the good-natured ribbing in one thread!
I am a primarily a collector of provincials with an interesting smattering of Achaemenid thrown in for spice. My provincial focus is Greece and Asia Minor, from Claudius I through Domitian. I know only a smattering--just enough to get me in trouble--so I appreciate your patience.
I live in the greater Cleveland area with my wife Stephanie and little five year old, Allison. And, yes, our Browns choked royally again this season, but "there is always next season." That is our mantra in NE Ohio!
Go Buckeyes!!!

Dave Cannon (Alias Lycaonian)

BeastCoins
Jan 3, 2008, 02:26 PM
Welcome Dave and my Big Bad Bears big-time choked this year as well, so I feel your pain. :o

And what's worse, Mark's doggone Cowboys are still in the running...:rolleyes:

--Beast

Lycaonian
Jan 3, 2008, 03:13 PM
Zach, right?

I bought a beautiful little Knidos silver from you a year or so ago. Thanks for the kind hellos. I am looking forward to interacting with you and others, but Lycaonian will do a WHOLE lot more listening than talking, I'm sure.
I am not sure who Mark is, but I am originally from Philly so the mere mention of the C-Boys sends us Cheesesteakers into convulsions. I spent too many years watching the "Birds" get thumped by Staubach, White, and company to easily get over it!
Anyway,I look forward to being part of this.

Dave

4to2centophilia
Jan 3, 2008, 04:06 PM
Welcome Dave and my Big Bad Bears big-time choked this year as well, so I feel your pain. :o

And what's worse, Mark's doggone Cowboys are still in the running...:rolleyes:

--Beast


Well Zach

If Tony focuses on passing and not just "scoring :D ", Perhaps they will stay in the running.

He should have stuck with Carrie.

Go "Boys"

Mark

PS Welcome Dave.................I'm Mark.

Lycaonian
Jan 5, 2008, 08:11 AM
Mark,

Hello to you as well and thanks for the welcome! If it comes down to the C-Boys and the Pats, as the prognosticators suggest, I'm afraid you will find me on the New England sidelines, though :D .

Dave

ember
Jan 5, 2008, 10:44 AM
Hi Dave,

I'm curious, is your interest in the Achaemenids strictly the Imperial sigloi and darics, or do you dabble in the satraps too?

Brgds,
Darcy
PS Have been a Cowboys fan forever but it's sooooo hard to cheer for TO.

Lycaonian
Jan 5, 2008, 02:14 PM
I hear you Darcy---about TO. It was hard to watch him and his antics with the Eagles--yikes!

Primary interest is the emperors--Darius, Artaxerxes...

However, I have been watching a well known satrap's issues some and go on the market.--Mazaios of Tarsos, Cilicia. These pieces are beautiful and dynamic. Someday...perhaps:o

I take it you collect the satraps?

Dave

4to2centophilia
Jan 5, 2008, 03:15 PM
I hear you Darcy---about TO. It was hard to watch him and his antics with the Eagles--yikes!

Primary interest is the emperors--Darius, Artaxerxes...

However, I have been watching a well known satrap's issues some and go on the market.--Mazaios of Tarsos, Cilicia. These pieces are beautiful and dynamic. Someday...perhaps:o

I take it you collect the satraps?

Dave

T.O. is a prima dona, but you gotta respect the talent. Seeing him up close and in person a couple weeks ago..............you can see why he breaks tackles. All my friends who are Eagle fans, hate him, but I have have a newfound fondness of him.

I have been a Dallas fan since 1969 and the Pats are my fall back team. But when (not if) they meet in the Super Bowl, I will be going for the "Boys.


As far as Mazaios...I picked this up last year at Gemini. Neat little coin. Didn't go with the intention of bidding for it, but they had a half dozen nice examples and I got caught up in the bidding.

http://www.ancients.info/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/4357/size/big/cat/

BR

Mark

Lycaonian
Jan 5, 2008, 04:35 PM
Mark,

Nicely centered stater--crisp legends--and the all too hard to find sharp obverse. Truly nifty piece. Nice, nice catch. That took a few worms to land, no doubt! I'm still looking for one, so any suggestions are welcome.

Dave

4to2centophilia
Jan 5, 2008, 05:25 PM
Mark,

Nicely centered stater--crisp legends--and the all too hard to find sharp obverse. Truly nifty piece. Nice, nice catch. That took a few worms to land, no doubt! I'm still looking for one, so any suggestions are welcome.

Dave

Well, I waited till a group came up on auction and then I went for the one I thought was second best. I guess it was a matter of opinion since several of the others also went for more, but I got it for about $725.

Lately, they are all going for $1k or more like this and I don't know why.

You might have to wait till another batch shows up.

I did the same thing with my Athens Owl. Waited till a large group came up for sale and grabbed one while the prices were fairly low.

Of course, with a strategy like that, the collecting slows down.

Two years and I only have 8 coins.

When I haven't followed that strategy, I have paid dearly.

BR

Mark

Lycaonian
Jan 5, 2008, 05:43 PM
Yep...that price for a piece that nice was a good buy---esp. if it were judged by vcoins prices. I have seen ones like this on vcoins pushing $1500! Mark, are you saying you have collected 8 coins over 2 years in a specialized area or does this represent your collection to date?

Dave

4to2centophilia
Jan 5, 2008, 05:50 PM
Yep...that price for a piece that nice was a good buy---esp. if it were judged by vcoins prices. I have seen ones like this on vcoins pushing $1500! Mark, are you saying you have collected 8 coins over 2 years in a specialized area or does this represent your collection to date?

Dave

Collection to date. I should add that I blew some coin money on a couple maps and a samurai helmet this year.

My focus became eclectic once I realized there were too many coins with either great artistry or intriguing historic significance.

I.E. I collect what attracts me.

Let's see what I end up with after next week (maybe even my first Roman coin).

BR

Mark

AlexB
Jan 5, 2008, 07:33 PM
My focus became eclectic once I realized there were too many coins with either great artistry or intriguing historic significance.

I.E. I collect what attracts me.

Let's see what I end up with after next week (maybe even my first Roman coin).

BR

Mark

Oh dear oh dear! Wouldnt catch me changing my collecting interests, oh no.

Best

Alex

ember
Jan 6, 2008, 09:13 AM
Hi Dave,

I collect both Achaemenids and their satraps, I made the mistake of buying the coin in my profile pic(a Datames from Cilicia) and it was all over but the debt.:)

TO certainly has a whack of talent Mark, but I can't forgive the taunting on the star. I wish someone had turned him into a lawn dart right there (I think it was George Teague who tried but failed, where's Randy White when you need him).

Cheers,
Darcy

Lycaonian
Jan 6, 2008, 01:21 PM
Good to hear back from you Darcy!

I saw a carradice I on ebay aF condition and sort of wish I had bid on it. The condition was not stellar but then again neither was the final price and indebtedness incurred by its purchaser:rolleyes: I think it went for under $200 and this was a month or so ago. So I wouldn't mind locating a nice carradice I --any hints at good places to "fish" for Ach. sigloi ingeneral and carradice I specifically? I purchased a nice carradice IV from an ebayer named Thymius about a month or so ago. He must have stumbled into a hoard sale because he kept trickling sigloi onto the ebay market week after week. I bought a respectable carradice IV daric for a very good price over the summer but they have shot up since gold has syrocketted into the stratosphere. Also added a carradice II fractional in aF.
OOOps...we digress from Roman provincials. Will my computer self-destruct, having crossed this forum's frontier into Persian no man's land?
Darcy...I'd love to have your input into the above carradice I questions and would value them.
Hello too goes to AlexB. Thanks for your greeting and welcome the other day.

Dave

ember
Jan 6, 2008, 01:57 PM
Hi Dave,

I have no real ideas on finding Carradice I examples, except watch the auctions, both US and European. Sixbid.com is a good website for keeping track of major auction houses upcoming events. Have you tried sending a want list to a dealer/dealers you've dealt with already? You may find a bargain on Ebay, I haven't really paid attention to it in the past few years so am not sure of the current state of prices there. Here's a pic of my Carradice I (it didn't cost 200, but wasn't actually extremely expensive either).

Darcy

BeastCoins
Jan 7, 2008, 10:56 AM
Well Zach

If Tony focuses on passing and not just "scoring :D ", Perhaps they will stay in the running.

He should have stuck with Carrie.

Go "Boys"

Mark

PS Welcome Dave.................I'm Mark.

Hey Mark! Is that a photo of you at the game recently? Your Christmas present?

By the way - I would like to remind you that your QB is from WISCONSIN! Actually, three of my cousins go to Tony Romo's high school in Burlington.

--Beast

BeastCoins
Jan 7, 2008, 11:00 AM
Hi Dave,

I collect both Achaemenids and their satraps, I made the mistake of buying the coin in my profile pic(a Datames from Cilicia) and it was all over but the debt.:)

TO certainly has a whack of talent Mark, but I can't forgive the taunting on the star. I wish someone had turned him into a lawn dart right there (I think it was George Teague who tried but failed, where's Randy White when you need him).

Cheers,
Darcy

Darcy,

Don't know if you saw them, but I recently had two neat Achaemenids (first two I've ever had I think).

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/beastcoins/store/catalog/Z6047.jpg

Time of Artaxerxes II to Artaxerxes III, AR Siglos, c.375-340 BC, Achaemenid Kingdom
(No legend)
Persian king or hero in kneeling-running stance right, dagger in right hand and bow in left
(No legend)
Incuse punch
13mm x 16mm, 5.41g
Carradice IV/C, pl. XIV, 46

http://www.vcoins.com/ancient/beastcoins/store/catalog/Z6046.jpg

Time of Xerxes II to Artaxerxes II, AR Siglos, c.420-375 BC, Achaemenid Kingdom
(No legend)
Persian king or hero in kneeling-running stance right, dagger in right hand and bow in left, quiver with arrows over shoulder
(No legend)
Incuse punch
14mm x 17mm, 5.43g
Carradice IV/B, pl. XIV, 43-45

I bought them for their neat and very different styles.

--Beast

4to2centophilia
Jan 7, 2008, 12:12 PM
Hey Mark! Is that a photo of you at the game recently? Your Christmas present?

By the way - I would like to remind you that your QB is from WISCONSIN! Actually, three of my cousins go to Tony Romo's high school in Burlington.

--Beast

Naw, that is just some giddy, lunatic................oh wait....yeah that's me. Santa very good to me this year.

Nice to know Wisconsin has more than just cheese.

Mark

BeastCoins
Jan 7, 2008, 01:20 PM
Naw, that is just some giddy, lunatic................oh wait....yeah that's me. Santa very good to me this year.

Nice to know Wisconsin has more than just cheese.

Mark

Yep, we do have more than just cheese. Although, our cheese does quite rock. And, we are AMERICA'S DAIRYLAND, despite what Californians seems to think. Oh yeah, we also have killer steaks here. I don't think I could ever actually move from Wisconsin, even though I've been a Bears fan my whole life - the eatin' is just too good here!

--Beast

Lycaonian
Jan 7, 2008, 01:50 PM
Yes, Zach, I did see the sigloi. Second photo struck me as a rather interesting albeit "crude" style issue. Ultimately I suppose we can't get at the reasons why this "Picasso" (my take) rendering of the Great King differs so radically from the earlier issues, but I guess I am still curious. Were these offered on your vcoins site or ebay, I can't remember. The abstractness is not a matter of wear pattern/ minting issues, is it?
I love the Persian sigloi and daric issues for a number of reasons. One is the lure of their simple, quaint (oops-betraying a bit of cultural chauvinism, I suppose) beauty.

I must say, folks, that I have my questions about how those C-Boys will fare against the Packers ;) (their next target, right?). They looked pretty lacklustre in their last showing, and brilliant coaching notions on conserving the health of starters aside:confused: , I have always had my doubts about how wise sitting your starters for a substantial amount of time really is.

Dave

4to2centophilia
Jan 7, 2008, 02:37 PM
I must say, folks, that I have my questions about how those C-Boys will fare against the Packers ;) (their next target, right?). They looked pretty lacklustre in their last showing, and brilliant coaching notions on conserving the health of starters aside:confused: , I have always had my doubts about how wise sitting your starters for a substantial amount of time really is.

Dave

We shall see, but regardless, I only cheer them on and hope for a good game.

Win or lose................I wake up with the same family, job and bank account.

Mark

BeastCoins
Jan 7, 2008, 03:49 PM
We shall see, but regardless, I only cheer them on and hope for a good game.

Win or lose................I wake up with the same family, job and bank account.

Mark

I wish I could wake up with Mark's family, job and bank account! Not to be Mark though - he's old and his body is shot. That's what happens when your kids use you for a jungle gym from what I've heard...

:p

--Beast

4to2centophilia
Jan 7, 2008, 06:28 PM
I wish I could wake up with Mark's family, job and bank account! Not to be Mark though - he's old and his body is shot. That's what happens when your kids use you for a jungle gym from what I've heard...

:p

--Beast

My wife would probably join that in that wish.

And yes, kids have taken their toll...........all worth the price of admission however.

Mark

cogito
Jan 7, 2008, 07:51 PM
Hey, lay off Mark. :D

There's a lot of resistance strength training and balance exercises that come with juggling kids. I worry about how my body may have turned out without them.

Jeff

ember
Jan 7, 2008, 07:54 PM
Hi Zach,

I missed those two, I definitely want one of the second type, with a leaf in the incuse(I've seen only one with the leaf identifiable). I have one of the first type, but yours is very artistically rendered and I have virtually no willpower...

Best,
Darcy

AlexB
Jan 7, 2008, 09:01 PM
Hi Zach,

I missed those two, I definitely want one of the second type, with a leaf in the incuse(I've seen only one with the leaf identifiable). I have one of the first type, but yours is very artistically rendered and I have virtually no willpower...

Best,
Darcy

the leaf will be handy for the doll we discussed....

:)

BeastCoins
Jan 8, 2008, 02:51 PM
Hi Zach,

I missed those two, I definitely want one of the second type, with a leaf in the incuse(I've seen only one with the leaf identifiable). I have one of the first type, but yours is very artistically rendered and I have virtually no willpower...

Best,
Darcy

Darcy,

The first one is sold, but the cruder type piece is actually available in my store. I thought both were pretty cool and far nicer than a many I've seen in person at shows.

--Beast

ember
Jan 8, 2008, 08:11 PM
Darcy,

The first one is sold, but the cruder type piece is actually available in my store. I thought both were pretty cool and far nicer than a many I've seen in person at shows.

--Beast

Zach,

The second is now sold as well, I have no willpower at all!:rolleyes:

Darcy

ember
Jan 8, 2008, 08:45 PM
Zach,

I found the first one in your sold category and am sick that I didn't see it right off the bat! I'm guessing it was for sale for less than 24 hours before it sold...

Darcy

BTW I'm not a Bears fan but I could watch Payton highlights for a month and not get bored. He was the man!

Lycaonian
Jan 8, 2008, 09:35 PM
You 're not gonna like this emmy:) , but HJB sold a beauty with a "banker's mark" similar style I think to Zach's back on Dec. 14 on Ebay. went for about $240 and had wonderful facial detail, good centering with crenulated (sp?) crown visible in nearly full detail :eek: I still have the image saved in my ebay watch list if you care to have a good cry:D . I didn't move on that piece myself.

BeastCoins
Jan 9, 2008, 10:48 AM
Zach,

I found the first one in your sold category and am sick that I didn't see it right off the bat! I'm guessing it was for sale for less than 24 hours before it sold...

Darcy

BTW I'm not a Bears fan but I could watch Payton highlights for a month and not get bored. He was the man!

Darcy,

Thanks for the order of the second piece, which will be on the way to you in a few minutes. That first coin sold pretty quickly.

As far as Bears, I could naturally watch highlights all day, which, unfortunately is all we Bears have of the 2007 season at this point (grrrrrrrrr!) :mad:

If I see any cool pieces, I'll let you know.

--Zach

ember
Jan 9, 2008, 01:03 PM
Please let's go easy on the Emmy, esp you Mr B!:) You've created a monster Dave. I'd love to see the Berk pic when you have a chance.

I'm looking forward to my new addition arriving Zach, Thanks!

If you're after highlights, the 2006 season may be a more rewarding viewing experience...:rolleyes:

Darcy

Lycaonian
Jan 9, 2008, 01:28 PM
Not exactly sure what you mean by "going easy,"but happy:) to send the pic. I am so tech-challenged...if you could direct me to where you want it sent to, that will be great!

AlexB
Jan 9, 2008, 04:19 PM
Hi Dave

Just ignore Emmy, he loves the attention almost as much as the coins!

I had a couple of Greeks from Cappodocia but a few hundred years earlier than your Roman Provincial search area. Will keep a look out for Lycaonian coins.

Best

Alex

Lycaonian
Jan 9, 2008, 04:35 PM
Thanks Alex! Lycaonia is a special place for me for a number of reasons.

Wow on the Triton XI, as someone earlier said. My bid got beaten up big time...ending price was over three time the estimate! I'd like to chat some more, if we can?

Dave

AlexB
Jan 9, 2008, 08:24 PM
Thanks Alex! Lycaonia is a special place for me for a number of reasons.

Wow on the Triton XI, as someone earlier said. My bid got beaten up big time...ending price was over three time the estimate! I'd like to chat some more, if we can?

Dave

Chat away Dave but I can't make the prices go down :)!

Best

Alex

4to2centophilia
Jan 10, 2008, 10:30 AM
Thanks Alex! Lycaonia is a special place for me for a number of reasons.

Wow on the Triton XI, as someone earlier said. My bid got beaten up big time...ending price was over three time the estimate! I'd like to chat some more, if we can?

Dave

Dave

Unfortunately, ever since Alex wandered into the world of Medievel English coins he has lost a bit of his "je ne sais quoi".

I am holding out hope that he finds himself back on the correct path...........his proverbial road to redemption.

Mark

Lycaonian
Jan 10, 2008, 12:20 PM
If you mean he is not given to expressing himself with socially acceptable vagueness, I am good with that:D I think Alex would have fit well in my family in my growing up years. We certainly never went to bed wondering about the subtleties and intricate innuendos of one another's communication that day.

Might as well shoot straight and get the bleeding over with.

But, ouch, I am still smarting a bit from the Triton meltdown:( . Getting over it even as I speak , though!

AlexB
Jan 10, 2008, 06:37 PM
Im definately not vague, well at least I dont think so...

However, where was I? Oh yes, Trition XI. I had a good bid in on the Offa but trumped by USD1000. I think there are quite a few 'professional' investors buying portfolios of coins. Is really time to sit back and watch. I have bought a couple fixed price coins recently, both ordinary-types, anything 'special' is rocketing up in price.

The UK auctions are better for pricing - many coins seem to end up at US auctions afterwards at x2 price so better to buy in UK for the moment. That is for Anglo-S anyway.

Is this is right thread? :)

Alex

Lycaonian
Jan 11, 2008, 06:52 AM
Alex,

Yep, Roman Provincials---don't let the recent detour through the topics of Persia and Triton woes confuse you:) . I do have a coin that brings us back to the theme of RP's if anyone cares to retrace our tracks. To me a little enigmatic. Bought a Lystra piece from a vcoins dealer purportedly from Lystra of Lycaonia--a large bronze from the reign of A. Pius. The ethnic is off the planchet but the obverse clearly retains the inscription "Cereris."
What's more, another dealer confirmed with his microscope that this piece circulated earleir as another issue and that there are shadowy remnants of another scraped inscription underneath. I am told by authorities that "cereris" ihas only been found on Lystra pieces to date. It is a nifty novelty piece!

AlexB
Jan 11, 2008, 08:17 AM
Alex,

Yep, Roman Provincials---don't let the recent detour through the topics of Persia and Triton woes confuse you:) . I do have a coin that brings us back to the theme of RP's if anyone cares to retrace our tracks. To me a little enigmatic. Bought a Lystra piece from a vcoins dealer purportedly from Lystra of Lycaonia--a large bronze from the reign of A. Pius. The ethnic is off the planchet but the obverse clearly retains the inscription "Cereris."
What's more, another dealer confirmed with his microscope that this piece circulated earleir as another issue and that there are shadowy remnants of another scraped inscription underneath. I am told by authorities that "cereris" ihas only been found on Lystra pieces to date. It is a nifty novelty piece!

Dave

I read your note here and realise you are lost to the world and your family just like the rest of us. Rest your weary legs on this board and contemplate awhile. What this whole board needs is a hobby. No more coins for a while, something wholesome like 'bait the ancient coin dealer'. I'd pay money for that. Wait a minute, that involves coins again. Damn it.

Brgds

Alex

Lycaonian
Jan 11, 2008, 09:11 AM
Alex,

Lost to the world--yes--in more mays than you might guess! But, no, meaning in my life thankfully goes well beyond the little round disks we buy and sell. It better, or, to strum the strings one last time (I promise:) --Triton and other numismatic downers would leave me in a funk for days.
I am truly God-blessed and have two wonderful redheads at home--my wife Stephanie and my little kindergarten "peanut," Allison. I am doing better than I deserve and could easily make that topic a long thread on a discussion board.
What do you do over there in Hong Kong?

4to2centophilia
Jan 11, 2008, 05:06 PM
Alex,

What do you do over there in Hong Kong?

He is the last Viceroy.

Sitting in his villa on The Peak, he spends his days looking down upon the peasants.

As they struggle to see the sun set on another day, he and his minions chuckle while toying with the wealth of nations.

Despite his God-like status he shows his benevolence by occasionally descending from the heavens to grace us with his wisdom on these boards.

Presidents and monarchs tremble at his sight.



Either that or he drives a tour bus for blue rinsed Englishwomen.

BR

Mark

AlexB
Jan 11, 2008, 05:08 PM
I work in North Asia for a UK-based fund management company. Spend my time trying to make money for our shareholders, is an exciting time, lots of things to get on with. I am the only 'foreigner' in the office of 15 people so my local language skills improving.

Not many coin dealers here :)

Best

Alex

AlexB
Jan 11, 2008, 05:19 PM
He is the last Viceroy.

Sitting in his villa on The Peak, he spends his days looking down upon the peasants.

As they struggle to see the sun set on another day, he and his minions chuckle while toying with the wealth of nations.

Despite his God-like status he shows his benevolence by occasionally descending from the heavens to grace us with his wisdom on these boards.

Presidents and monarchs tremble at his sight.



Either that or he drives a tour bus for blue rinsed Englishwomen.

BR

Mark

I shall take your points 1-5:

1. Live in the wonderfully named 'Happy Valley', a Mecca for horse-racing hence the name given by a wonderfully optimistic people;
2. The only money I get to hold are the old coins I struggle to photo/scan despite numerous attempts, you only see the partially successful result, not the casualties;
3. I am the boards;
4. I am also Royalty;
5. I would like to drive a bus but have yet to see a blue-rinse here. The humidity would see it (and them) off methinks...

Regally

Alex